Perspectives From the So-Called "Enemies"
Female Perspective #7 by Tam
Female Perspective #6 by Ruby Soho
Female Perspective #5 by J Anonymous
Female Perspective #4 by Melissa Souza
Female Perspective #3 by Melissa Souza
Female Perspective #2 by Katrina Gumke
Female Perspective #1 by "Holly Hox"
Female Perspective #7
So We Don't Have The Y-Chromosome |
Tam
8.11.01 |
I'm sure you've seen the mathematical proof that "girls are evil" - you guys
must've come up with it, right? I thought it was really quite brilliant. Much
more interesting to read than the mathematical proofs from geometry, way back
when.
I'm not going to say that my gender is completely innocent - it so isn't.
I'm sixteen, going on seventeen next month, and the personification of evil
has never been better expressed than in a pretty face, according to any guy I
could ask walking down the hallways of high school. There are plenty of
sluts, airheads, flirts, and manipulators waiting to wreak havoc on these
poor guy's hearts. So we lack the y-chromosome, but I'd have to say that
there are girls out there whose sole purpose in life isn't to make yours
miserable. I can honestly say that I'm one. So don't faint.
If you want any references from me that might make you see that I'm being
Truthful - ask the 15 guy drummers I deal with all year, all summer long,
24/7. I'm the only girl drummer in band, but I'm in charge of those boys, and
I do love them to death, no matter what they put me through with their girl
issues. (there are 20 flutes by the way), and I'll give you three guesses as
to who has to hug the guys and get them through heartbreak over and over as
the truly "evil" girls play with their minds - and the first two don't count!
Do you believe me now when I could say that I'm really on your side, in a
sense? I've seen everything from both sides, I got closer to the truth of
guys from my perspective than most girls ever venture, apparently some sort
of endangered species, with all the evil girls you refer to.
I even started an "anti-skank/slut/snob/suck-up society" in protest one
summer, southern California being rampant with such girls. You guys deserve
better - I'll prove myself to you somehow, the Ataris got it right, I see how
love is overrated and leaves you devastated. But then… what about the song
"your boyfriend sucks?" The y-chromosomes aren't completely guiltless either.
It's a two-way street, but I do agree girls are probably worse. You can only guess
who signed up first.
How can I prove to you that we "non-evil" girls do exist out there?
The*Ataris - I know their songs in and out, I can even play them for you if
you want, if you wanna play a song for me, I’d melt. A guy like that would
be a guy for me. I can totally understand where they're coming from. I got to
talk to Kris Roe before a show, just by pure chance and being in the right
place at the right time - and I know what he means, "All the good girls go
with the dickheads" leaving the good guys... alone. I ended up going to their
show at the glass house with... 3 guy friends whose girlfriends wanted to go
see N'SYNC instead. < --Never ever purchased a CD or any N'SYNC merchandise
in my life, don't know any of their dances, never will… give me saves the
day, dashboard confessional, the get up kids, no motiv, rufio...)
-Shopping is NOT a sport for me, in fact, I’m the only girl that the guys I
know willingly take to malls. I'd much rather spend my time doing something
else, clothes aren't the be-all-end all. I don't take forever and a day, in
fact...they might even browse around longer than I do! Oh. and three outfits
for me would go nowhere near costing $150 dollars. I’d rather spend my money
on music, having fun, anything more necessary.
-Jealousy is something I've seen too much of with other girls, I lack the
genetic code to feel it, I agree that although there are DEFINITELY guys out
there who deserve to be suspected of wrongdoing, there are others who are
"wrongfully accused." Nothing is worse than an irrational, over jealous girl.
And I apologize for girls' love of mind games, they simply leave guys
devastated and that really sucks.
-I don't wear makeup on a daily basis, I Don’t carry a mirror with me ever,
and I can *gasp* go outside of the house without ANYTHING on my face.
Chapstick and lip balm shouldn't count, because guys use it too! Halloween
and face painting is one day too many, right? And you'll never catch me
putting mascara on in the car. That's just plain dangerous, you could put an
eye out. hehe.
-I appreciate sweetness in a guy, but I know them well enough not to be one
of those girls who EXPECTS roses and such often, it's more meaningful
spontaneously. The girls that watch dawson's creek and the teen dramas turn
evil after awhile like that. Watch out for them.
-How 'bout this? I challenge any guy to get ready faster from me, I’ve
perfected the art of getting ready in 5 minutes or less, and I've already
beaten the entire drum line, from waking up to finish.
-I know my sports, I can be adventurous, not one of your "I don't want to get
my hair or makeup messed up, or get dirty" kind of girls < --do you consider
those evil too? And I’ll go play rugby and football and not get killed,
despite my size.
And that would be me. I sure would hope I don't fall under the category of
evil, and I promise you, there are non-evil girls out there, not exactly like
me, but they do exist. I hope you find those girls you deserve. I'm having a
hard enough time finding a decent guy here who realizes what he has right in
front of him- and not chasing one of the said "evil girls." Perhaps boys in
Southern California purposely chase after evil girls? So it seems, sometimes.
Where do I fit in the scheme of things?
Oh, and for the record...I saw “Fight Club" and actually enjoyed it.
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Female Perspective #6
RubyFearsBoys |
Ruby Soho
6.5.01 |
I would like to say first off that I am a girl and I think that your site is
beyond humorous. I totally dig your site. I would also like to go on record
to say that you kids are right: girls are evil. I have seen a lot of my male
friends get hurt by the mind games of evil girls. And I find it pretty funny
when I openly say girls are evil, boys tend to give me this weird look. They
seem to think that since I am a girl I should automatically defend my sex.
But come on, I’ll admit it loud [but not so proud], we like to play mind
games, we do it to make sure that you the boy are totally into us and only
us.
I think its pretty ballsy [pronounced ballz-E] of you guys to go out there
and proclaim the evilness of girls, knowing that you would get a lot of
backlash from girls who think that you’re lame and have hit all time
bitterness to make a site about bad girls. But as you probably found out,
there are other girls that agree with you whole-heartedly. I mean you kids
seem like a bunch of nice boys who probably didn’t deserve to be dissed by
our evil counterparts, so I would like to represent the non-evil females of
the land and apologize to you, “I’m sorry.”
But come on, you have to admit that there are evil boys out there too who
are all up in the mind games. I’m sure of it, I’ve met a lot through out my
19 years on earth. I’d also like to point out that there are a lot of
non-evil girls out there [like myself] who have been jaded by evil boys. So
they try not to follow in the footsteps of our evil sisters because let’s
face it, the getting your heart stomped on hurt is possibly the worse hurt
out there. Not the greatest feeling I say.
I like how you give mad props to Saves the Day. They sure do rule and are
such a great band. I like Chris Conley as a writer. So some may say that his
lines are on the cheesy side, but I say that he is very descriptive with his
emotions. I know that this is totally cliche but you could truly feel what
he is feeling. Everyone can relate to his words. Its bitterness at its
finest.
So yea anyway, keep doing what you do best, good job on the site, you get an
approving nod from me and don’t worry, you’ll find that special non-evil
girl one day.
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Female Perspective #5
I Promise You Nothing |
J Anonymous
5.17.01 |
Ok, so I don't really know how I got on your site, but I did, and I like it.
I’m a girl but I’m not offended. I do have an evil guy story
though, and I just thought I would be nice and productive and share it.
this guy came down to visit my friends fall semester. I met him and we
really hit it off. he was intelligent and funny, and he was emo. I loved being
around him, but he lived in ----- I went to school in -----.
So we enjoyed the 2 days we spent together, then we talked on the phone for 6
months. When he came back, he was ready to see me. We hung out, but I was
scared because I really liked him a lot and I didn’t want to dig myself deeper
by hooking up with him again (this is kissing, I’m not a ho) so he tells me
(and I quote) "I promise you nothing, but I’ll call you and I’ll come back
down to see you. I really care about you." I saw that as ok, so I went with
it. I know it was stupid now, but at the time I really liked him, and it had
been so long since someone had made me feel like the way he did. But what I
didn't catch was the "I promise you nothing." What I found out from our
mutual friends is that meant that he promises he won't call me, he won't come
see me, etc. But he ever-so-casually followed it up with complimentary
statements to hide that so I didn't catch it right off. Needless to say, I
have yet to hear from him. This was just to show that even emo guys (or at
least one that I know of) can be evil.
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Female Perspective #4
Love Is Love Until There's War |
Melissa Souza
5.15.01 |
"You’re amazing", "you’re perfect", "you’re everything I've been looking for." All things we've heard, and some regret hearing, and all things that can be mistaken for truth. I find it hard to believe that someone can say these things and then the next minute dish the same words out to your best friend. Words are nothing but words, but they speak emotion, and give feeling. People go along everyday and say things that they don’t really mean. We say, "I love you" like its just a lyric in a song, or a line in a book. But it’s so much more. Unfortunately, that’s what makes love so fake. People. I know we've all had our fair share of fakes. I know I have. Sometimes though, these words are too convincing.
Just recently, I found myself in a pit. A pit that kept growing deeper and deeper, and now it’s so deep, I can’t get out. The cause of this is, love. I’m not saying I'm the only one like this, or that I have it worse off then others, I’m just trying to speak the truth. Have you ever been so head over heels for someone that seems so perfect, so amazing... then you come to find out its not what you thought? I’m sure you have. A couple days ago I met this boy. Amazing… perfection to the core. Everything I thought I wanted and more. He read my mind like I was an open book and said things that would tear down the walls around anyone’s healing heart. Unfortunately, he tore down my walls and now my heart is so broken up I don’t think I can salvage enough pieces to put it back together again. Within about an hour, everything he told me was now a lie. It now meant nothing. This experience is what led me to realize… your right… girls ARE EVIL… BUT 4 or 5 years meant nothing. All because of a guy. A guy that couldn’t make up his mind, a guy that was unsure, a guy that used words without the feeling. A guy that threw me to the ground while trying to find his road to happiness. I guess the song is one I can relate to now. "Uninspired, and growing tired, why am I always so attracted to drama, now here I am, grown up at 23, can someone tell me what it takes to be happy. I guess I’m giving up on love, cuz it really kinda SUX!!!!"… ~Ataris~
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Female Perspective #3
Just Some Things I Hope You Let Other People See |
Melissa Souza
"#1 Girl Fan"
4.27.01 |
Ok, well here’s the thing. I’m a female, and no, I’m not going to defend my gender. A lot of the girls I know are shallow, insecure bitches who feed off of bringing other people down… such as you emo guys. They have no depth, and the only thing they want is to show they're cheerleader bitch friends that they have the "hottest guy." I’m aware that there are plenty of those "evil" girls out there… personally, I think they're the plastic to my gender. They're all con artists and a disgrace to the ones like me.
I'm sure you guys think that there aren't any girls out there that are sweet and just want love returned for the love they give… well, there are, I’m one of those girls. I like to call myself a hopeless romantic. I’ve been dreaming of the day I meet a guy like me… down to earth, and looking for a relationship, someone to make them feel like they're something... on that journey, I haven’t found shit. I’ve come across the most low life assholes there are. I guess they have a weird attraction to me. Unfortunately its done nothing but bring me down.
These guys aren’t the average "jock-strap, fashionable, assholes”. These are the guys that define themselves as "punk rock, want a girl like me"... but in reality, they just want a piece of ass. Unfortunately that has lead me to think that all guys just want ass... that there are none left like all of you. If there is... how come I can’t find any? Apparently there must be some left right?
Just recently I had a relationship...it wasn’t like any other. I thought this guy was everything and more. He WAS one of you. He was the guy that was there for me, that wasn’t perfect looking, that wanted to sit and talk for hours about nothing, that wanted love. But within a few months this part of him disappeared. Suddenly he was the guy that wanted to get laid, that wanted to cut me off, that wanted to date his ex because he just realized he was really in love with her. What should this make me think? It’s been 5 months now and he’s still got me left wondering if I should wait. Even though the feelings are no longer mutual, I’m still contemplating where I should go and what to do. But that wasn’t the first time something along those lines happened.
In conclusion of all this rambling on about nothing but everything all at once, I think I have the right to say the same thing about guys; that maybe guys are evil. But I wont, cuz I know that cant be true, even though I have every reason to think that. Just like a majority of girls are evil, after what I’ve experienced in the past, I have reason to believe majority of guys are evil...and that’s about all I got to say! Thanks for the time!
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Female Perspective #2
Girls |
Katrina Gumke
4.25.01 |
You know guys aren't the only ones that get screwed.
Girls get it to. I just recently had a very horrible
experience. I was dating a guy who was 21; I was 17 at
the time. He seemed to be a real sweetheart. He would
come over to my house and see me every day. Well one
night he had came over and he was extremely tired (he
lays gas lines and works with heavy equipment) so I
told him he should go home and get some sleep and I
will see him tomorrow. Well tomorrow never came
Neither did the next day. So that Sunday he and I were
supposed to go down the hill for a late X-mas and I
went over to his house to find out if he was going or
not and he told me that he was in serious trouble
with his mom and dad (he still lived at home) because he
Had skipped out the Thursday before and went to Vegas
with his best friend Danny and got drunk got into a
couple of fights and went to leave but his Camaro
broke down and he had to have his mom come pick him
up. (That was his story) Then he told me that he had
to go inside I didn't get my usual kiss so I knew
something was up. As he went inside I caught a glimpse
of his ex-girlfriend in the living room. I went home
and I got a call from his dad telling me what really
happened. He did go to Vegas with his friend but his
friend brought his fiancé and she brought my ex's old
girlfriend and they got them drunk and married them
off in Vegas.
But i understand why you feel the way you do about
girls but seriously were not all total psycho
bitches. I just hope after reading your site that you
find someone you really care about and she feels the
same for you.
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Female Perspective #1
Just Some Thoughts, From a Not-So-Evil Girl... |
"Holly Hox"
4.26.01 |
If you ask me, I don't think evil is necessarily
gender-specific. I know this because I have an evil
ex-boyfriend. I'm in no way out to destroy the
foundation of this site; I’m not saying there aren't
evil girls, or that boys are worse... but I think an
evil person is an evil person, period. And I'm glad
there's finally a site in which to expose them :)
Seriously though.... my ex-boyfriend was EVIL. Now
for the guy(s) reading this, the ones who’ve been
scorned so badly by girls that they refuse to
sympathize with me, do me a favor... just put yourself
in my shoes, reverse the sexes while you read this,
and you’ll see what I mean when I say that evilness is
non-gender specific. Come on, just do it. Humor me.
Okay. So you know how people always say that the best
relationships are the ones where you start out as
friends? Well that's true, but it’s also the recipe
for the worst break-ups. Because when your best
friend becomes your boyfriend (or girlfriend), and you
break up, you don’t only lose the person you’ve been
dating; you also lose the person who, had they not
been the person you had just broken up with, would be
the one you turn to for sympathy, the one whose
shoulder you’d be crying on. And it’s hard enough to
deal with someone not wanting to date you anymore. But
somehow it’s much harder to deal with someone not
wanting to even be your friend. Especially when they
were your best friend.
But maybe I’m getting ahead of myself. Let me
explain: as you’ve probably guessed from my ranting, I
have experienced this situation first hand. A couple
of years ago, shortly before I was leaving for
college, my best friend was a guy named Luke (name changed). I had
known Luke throughout high school, but it wasn’t until
my senior year (his junior year) that we became really
close. Mainly because I was in love with a mutual
friend of ours, John, who didn’t exactly feel the same
way about me (but that's another story for another
day). That whole summer before I left for college,
Luke and I were inseparable. And he listened to my
woes about John and offered moral support. He was
everything to me that John wasn’t. And as the months
went on I found myself thinking less and less about
John and more and more about Luke...
It was horrible timing, though, considering that just
as our newfound feelings were blossoming for each
other, I left for college in a city that was a six
hour car ride away from our hometown. But it didn’t
phase us; about a month or two into the school year he
came down to visit, and soon after we became an
official couple. It was great for a few months. But
soon, inevitably, the long distance thing began to
have it’s effect, and things went sour. He broke up
with me. We got back together. He acted like an
asshole. I cried. We broke up again.
Now here’s where he gets evil.
When we broke up for the second and final time, it
wasn’t exactly a break up. Not to me at least. Because
he told me he loved me, that he wanted to get back
together (eventually), it wasn’t over for us, that the
long distance was hard but hey, he was graduating soon
so maybe he could move so we could be together. I
know, I know. Anyone who’s been through this knows
that’s bullshit and I shouldn’t have believed it, but
I was in love. So I did - believe it, that is. But I
still stand by the fact that he, knowing how I felt...
well I still think it was cruel.
Now here’s where he gets really evil.
So then, not even a week after this conversation, I
get a call from my other best friend, Jessica, who
still lived back home, telling me that Luke was....
dating someone else. I couldn’t believe it. Some
girl named Amanda. So I confronted him, and he blew me
off, saying “Well you know, we hang out, you know, we
fuck around.” It wasn’t until later that I realized I
should have taken that statement literally.
Soon after, our semester ended and I came home for
the summer. And it started up again: his declaration
of undying love, how, okay, he messed around with
Amanda, but she meant nothing, I was “the one” but we
were young and right now it was just too hard. And
somehow all those lies made sense to me. Okay so I was
completely retarded for listening to it, I cannot
defend myself, but maybe some of the guys out there
can clear something up for me: Obviously I knew about
Amanda, I knew he and I were no longer an official
couple. So why did he keep leading me on? I had even
confronted him about her over the phone, he didn’t
even have to see me face to face... why did he have to
drag it out? I realize breaking up with some one
sucks, but wouldn’t he have preferred being rid of me?
Was it an ego thing? But he did drag it out, and I
foolishly went along with it, for about the first
three weeks of the summer. Then suddenly, one day, he
stopped talking to me. Stopped calling. Didn’t return
my calls.
Now here’s where I realize he’s the spawn of Satan.
I went to his house to confront him, to simply say
that I knew things were weird but I hoped we could get
past it, at least be friends, because I still wanted
him in my life. And you know what he told me? That he
and Amanda were dating. That they had been, since that
night Jessica had called me, about a week after we’d
broken up. He’d lied to me, every day, every time I
asked, every time he said he still loved me (guys? I'm
still waiting for an explanation on that one).
Needless to say, we didn’t talk much for the rest of
the summer after that. Especially after he admitted
that the night he’d broken up with me (that second
time, while I was still at school... I know it gets
confusing, sometimes I don’t know when it ended
exactly, either), well that night he went out and had
sex with some chick (not Amanda) who’d been coming onto
him for awhile. Apparently she had really big
breasts. Come to think of it, so did Amanda. I don’t.
And it went on... for the next year and a half. He
would date Amanda, they’d sort of break up, and he’d
turn around and lead me on again, only to immediately
blow me off, again. But the worst part of all, by
far, is the fact that I let him. I let him use me, I
went along with his lies. For every time he was nice
to me, he would have to make another plan with me to
do something, only to “forget” about it or blow me
off. I know it was on purpose. The pattern to it was
so obvious that I could always see it coming from a
million miles away. But he had been my best friend.
Or so I kept telling myself. I could accept that he
wasn’t in love with me, had never been. But knowing
he didn’t love me was much more than I could bear.
Finally, though, after the millionth time of reaching
out to him like a fool, letting him know how much I
cared about the person who’d been my “very best
friend”, I finally saw how ridiculous it was. I
finally realized that really, no one needs a person in
their life who is going to constantly remind them of
how unimportant they are, how disposable, how
replaceable.
It wasn’t until I could accept this that I could see
just how evil he truly was, and is. To this day, Luke
will do things to hurt me, and I know it’s to remind
me that he doesn’t care. Luckily it no longer hurts
me like it used to (although apparently he hasn’t quite
caught on yet); I can see now that he’s the one with
the problem. And I have to say, for all the pain he
caused, in the end I’m a much stronger person for it,
as cheesy as that may sound. But it’s true. Evil
people suck, we all know it, and that makes us better.
So maybe we should thank them... or at least keep
making web sites to get back at them, cause God knows
they deserve it.
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